Victorious star Daniella Monet always planned to have six kids. Then her first was born, and motherhood felt bigger, darker, and lonelier than she ever imagined.

Daniella opens up to host Liz Tenety about postpartum anxiety, an emergency C-section after planning an unmedicated birth, the unexpected challenges of breastfeeding, and a second pregnancy just six months after her first, in the middle of a pandemic.

Now she’s reprising Trina Vega and executive producing Hollywood Arts, out this October on Netflix. They talk about why she’d rather her kids watch scripted TV than fall down the YouTube rabbit hole, how she teaches them to listen to their bodies (Oreos included), and why “balance” doesn’t exist for working moms.