Angela Duckworth is a professor of psychology at the University of Pennsylvania, and founder and CEO of the Character Lab, a nonprofit advancing the science and practice of character development in children.

She is also the author of the New York Times bestseller “Grit: The Power of Passion and Perseverance,” which talks about how the combination of passion and persistence is more important than talent when it comes to succeeding in life.

Angela’s research and ideas have been groundbreaking in the areas of education and parenting, and in this episode, she and Liz talk about how we can instill our kids with grit, how she personally approaches this with her own daughters, and why even though she’s a psychology expert she herself is far from a perfect parent.